Author Topic: Kundalini stuff (Read 11528 times)

dragonmandala · « **Reply #20 on:** July 18, 2005, 11:08:05 PM »

I need to take the kundalini reiki level 7 - 9 ! Anybody who can help me? What is the next three levels?

dragonmandala@yahoo.com

thanks

Harry · « **Reply #21 on:** July 18, 2005, 11:51:21 PM »

Quote from: dragonmandala on July 18, 2005, 11:08:05 PM

What is the next three levels?

To answer your question, you only really need the first three attunements: although levels 4-9 can be rather beneficial, they're only boosters, and aren't required for one to be able to use the energy effectively.

Assuming you still want the attunements for 7-9, you'd be better off e-mailing one of the masters directly --- they don't often look through the boards for prospective students, so that would be the easiest thing to do.

(Info on each master can be found here.)

Namaste

Harold Bellemare Shihan

T0ny · « **Reply #22 on:** July 25, 2005, 08:56:37 AM »

Hi there

This thread/message posted by Mike, along with some discussion has me thinking.

http://www.sharereiki.org/sriforum/index.php?topic=4356.msg46279#msg46279

OK, I love my Kundalini work and feel it has brought me a long way in my journey. The problem I have is that I find Ole's style "too easy". By that I mean how can one think Kundalini Reiki and away it goes.

that was my thought and I guess it is maybe through years of human programing that we only get what we work for.

When I work with students I emphasise the need to open the Kundalini channel, get the stuff flowing properly.

Stevens thread along with my views after reading such books as the celestine Prophecy made me question just where I am in my journey. I previously questioned those who took what I considered to be an easy route, and felt that we should work for where we want to be.

If we reach a stage where we are perhaps on a higher vibrationary level are we so well connected we no longer have to work for our connection? Do we reach that point.

It is possibel to just think kundlaini reiki and it will flow

waddya reckon Mike

T

alimaya · « **Reply #23 on:** July 25, 2005, 09:06:06 AM »

This thread also got me thinking, as I'm in the process of being attuned to Kundalini Reiki. I have a background of yoga training, so I have to admit to being more than a little confused when told just to think "Kundalini Reiki Meditation" and it will happen. My training tells me that I should be doing something - focusing on my breath, parts of my body (you get the picture).

Maybe I've just been brought up to believe that I have to work to achieve something. Maybe in this case, I don't need to. I would love your feedback about this Michael (or anyone else).

Om shanti

alley · « **Reply #24 on:** July 25, 2005, 09:14:20 AM »

I still think that we do indeed need to "do the work" but personally have been feeling that the work has been leading me to develop the trust/belief that the kundalini reiki can be virtually instant...

I personally need to feel it...and although I have read Ole's claims that all one has to do is request I did not...and could not feel it...

but lately I do...

love alley~~*

alimaya · « **Reply #25 on:** July 25, 2005, 09:17:33 AM »

so that's where it get's interesting alley - are those of us that want guidelines being too controlling? Should we just let go?

Or is it a good thing to work with a discipline?

I can see arguments for both sides $:-\$ $:-\$ $:-\$

Om shanti

alley · « **Reply #26 on:** July 25, 2005, 09:31:53 AM »

I guess there isn't only one way....

For me, believing what someone else says because they say it if it feels wrong ...and is denying my own truth..

I am so glad I work with dicipline every day...and although I have been finding an *instantness* to my energy work...I wonder if it is because I have intigrated the dicipline so much that it is who I am.....

It is like a new level of confidence has developed because of the work...

love alley~~*

Tim · « **Reply #27 on:** July 25, 2005, 09:42:51 AM »

Hey Folks,
I have self attuned to Kundalini Reiki. I believe it has been Only Partially sucessful.
This is Because of Blocks I have in my energy bodies not because of the Self attunement. This is Where the Work has to Come in for Me.
But If I had a perfectly clear and open Energy body I would think that I would be permenantly connected to the source

The Self attunement process as I did it is as Simple as intending and there you go. No work involved. The Kundalini Reiki Meditation works for me also. Its an instant process. I see it as a self healing without the hand position or any specific intent to send energy to myself.

Tony, as I understand it the Meditation works because somewhere out there in the Cosmos is a little cloud of inteligence that has all the information for the meditation built in. All we do is call on this intelligence and off we Go.

Tim.

T0ny · « **Reply #28 on:** July 25, 2005, 09:55:25 AM »

Quote from: Tim on July 25, 2005, 09:42:51 AM

Tony, as I understand it the Meditation works because somewhere out there in the Cosmos is a little cloud of inteligence that has all the information for the meditation built in. All we do is call on this intelligence and off we Go.

Tim.

Thanks Tim

On a mission now

Tony

bikermiker · « **Reply #29 on:** July 25, 2005, 01:17:14 PM »

I am also a big fan of what T0ny and Alley says... and obviously this simple meditation is not a substitute for Yoga or serious daily spiritual practice. K-Reiki meditation is the way out when you're on a coffey break...limited time... and any work is better than none at all

In this particular case, I did do some breathing excersizes and a bit of centering, but those are things I do every now and then throughout my day, without necessary leading myself into meditation.

However, as you might know, I love to throw different light on to things... Just because something is extremely simple in combination with being most beneficial, I don't think it's ethically wrong to enjoy the fruits of less effort

(I just had to)

love all
Michael

Featherpoint · « **Reply #30 on:** July 25, 2005, 02:10:22 PM »

Hi,

How many times have we all said Reiki, is Reiki, is Reiki.Â How many times have we all said when working with the energy it is imperative to "just let go"?Â

To get things in life, whether it is material possessions, financial wealth, or a even a specific person in our lives we are all taught to pursue.Â If we want something, we find it and go after it.Â We are taught that we have to do the work.Â We have to 'make' it happen.Â

So lets look at our Reiki practice.Â In Usui we are taught focus, awareness, intent, symbols, love and on and on.Â We are taught to do the work to 'make it happen'.Â Very similar to the non-Reiki portion of our lives.Â BUT, the bottom line is, we do not do the work, we do not make it happen - the energy comes from the Source, to the recipient.Â We are the channels and nothing more.Â

I believe what we are taught through Usui is a good starting point.Â It takes us from a place of not believing or not understanding to a place of having faith, trust, and knowing that we are not alone on this journey.Â It helps us to see that 'it' the energy, the support, the very essence of being is there for us all the time, it is our choice to use it, to see it, to feel it.Â

To question if the simpler process of Kundalini is enough, I think it is not that we are questioning the energy, or the process, instead we are really questioning our own abilities.Â When starting out with Kundalini we again need to learn that belief, trust and faith.Â So the 'work' is not about focusing on any rituals to perform, the work is about letting go and trusting that our connections to the Source are there and that healing will go to where it is needed.

Our challenge with any type of Reiki is to trust and believe it is happening.Â It asks us to work on ourselves, to open up enough that we can say "I know!" instead of "Is it?".

With light and love,
Featherpoint

Ki · « **Reply #31 on:** July 25, 2005, 06:06:11 PM »

Wow that is exactly what I went through thinking. It all seemed a little... surreal to me. I mean just think "Kundalini Reiki Meditation" and there you go. For me, personally, being attuned to kundalini reiki I was also a little unsure of whether to do kundalini reiki and when to do usui trad. reiki. The fact is for me sometimes I feel it flowing up from my root chakra and sometimes it comes from the crown. I just let it chose its way

Just trust your intuition.

Oh yeah I also try to focus a little bit on my root chakra, drawing energy through there to help it flow a little bit more. Like you, I find "kundalini reiki meditation ON!" a little short.

Hope this helps,
Jonathan

alimaya · « **Reply #32 on:** July 26, 2005, 07:48:40 AM »

Thank you everyone for your feedback. You have all helped immensely

Om shanti

jalperi · « **Reply #33 on:** October 18, 2005, 05:09:14 PM »

Hi,
I have just finished KR1-9. I did not feel anything. When I do U Reiki I feel the energy comming thro' my crown chakra from the universe. But in K Reiki does the energy comes from Mother Earth thro' our root chakra or from within ourselves coz the notes are not very clear? Could someone please explain?

Thank You very much.
Love
jalperi

alley · « **Reply #34 on:** October 18, 2005, 07:55:57 PM »

Hey Jalperi...
congratulations on your attunements...

I hope you have looked through and started practicing some of the breathing techniques earlier in this thread...

Hummm your question is interesting....perhaps no-one actually knows the answer...LOL

My feeling or opinion is that kundalini energy is within....
like a personal source almost...

...the kundalini attunement connects it (your personal K energy) with the energy source of Mother Earth which is, in my opinion, connected with the universal energy source....

One big "source connection"....

so for me...
I find/activate that particular energy at the root chakra and use it to clear the jid (column) to the crown and all the other chakras...
I used it for personal growth for at least a year before I started using it for healing...
I personally like to be very familiar and form a good relationship with energies...

(again I stress the importance if doing the breathing exersizes as a foundation or platform for your own realtionship with the kundalini energy)...

I hope this helps a bit...

love alley~~*

T0ny · « **Reply #35 on:** October 18, 2005, 08:14:10 PM »

Quote from: jalperi on October 18, 2005, 05:09:14 PM

Hi,
I have just finished KR1-9. I did not feel anything. When I do U ReikiÂ I feel the energy comming thro' my crown chakra from the universe. But in K ReikiÂ does the energy comes from Mother Earth thro' our root chakra or from within ourselves coz the notes are not very clear? Could someone please explain?

Thank You very much.
Love
jalperi

Jalperi

All energy work is a commitment and a connection between individual and source therefore there is no 'right answer' as to what one may or may not experience.

Firstly, as I understand things, you are correct in the way the energy flows. Usui tends to take it in the crown chakra and Kundalini sees the Root chakra as the entry point. Hence, Kundalini one and two get the channel open (give your pipework a jolly good cleaning) and Kundalini three is the first time you utilise the root chakra, kicking it into life.

So with Kundalini reiki the energy flows from the bottom up so to speak.

Now, on to the sensations. May I ask what your expectation of these sensations are. How necessary are they. Are they simply a confirmation that Kundalini energy is flowing? We know it is flowing so why do we actually need that confirmation.

I am not trying to be smart here. My belief is that there is a big difference between Kundalini Reiki and usui Reiki. With Usui we have the symbols, we have a described methodology. I see these as training wheels on your bike. With Usui, as time progresses you rely less and less on these support mechanisms as you 'become reiki'.

With Kundalini there needs to be total trust. Sure you may feel some sensations but the fact that it is so simple is indicative of the basic foundation of the modality. That one is in total trust of the system, the energy flow and ones ability to channel this without symbols or method. Just open up and allow it to flow and it will do so.

If we embrace this concept then the sensations become irrelevant. If we still need these sensations to confirm in our minds that it is flowing we need to work our mind out and not our practices within the modality.

I hope this helps. I have worked with a number of people on this modality and I hope they will add to this thread and give their opinion and experiences in working with Kundalinin reiki. I can tell you from feedback I have received that the sensations and experiences are wide and varied.

Aroha

Tony

Tamara · « **Reply #36 on:** October 19, 2005, 01:57:39 AM »

Jalperi;

I have recently received my KR 1-3 attunements and for me they were as different from my Usui attunements as night and day. With Usui all of my attunements came with the 'bells and whistles", patterns of light, physical sensations, etc.

I found the Kundalini attunements to be much more subtle. Pleasant, but not so much fanfare, so to speak. In fact, yesterday was my Level 3 KR attunement (Thanks Tony!!!)and it was even more subtle and (physically) sensation free than levels 1 and 2. I just relaxed and let it come.

I think it is a different experience for everyone and some folks go into it thinking they are going to come out the other end a 'changed' person, more aware or sensitive or something, and while I am sure that is the case for some people, it is not for most.

Hope this helps and I congratulate you on your attunement!

Sincerely
Tamara

Featherpoint · « **Reply #37 on:** October 19, 2005, 05:18:01 AM »

Hi jalperi,

I am also working my way through the K attunement process. It is hard to describe what I 'felt' from it. While there were some minor physical sensations, the ones that most important and really stand out are the non-physical.

The Spiritual growth I have gone through is the main thing that really stands out though. Usui to me, is a more physical/spiritual energy, while Kundalini is a more spiritual/physical energy.

That being said, one is not better than the other. Both of them have their moments where one seems like it should be used over the other. But I don't decide logically, I just go with what feels right instinctively.

Regardless of what Reiki modality you are attuned to and choose to work with, the important thing is to believe it's there, have faith, and keep practicing.

Enjoy it jalperi, it is another step on your journey, that in itself is a wonderful thing!

With light and love,
Featherpoint

jalperi · « **Reply #38 on:** October 21, 2005, 06:08:21 PM »

Hi ,
Thank you everyone for your feedback.
Now that I do not wait to feel the sensations, the feeling of the energy is there !!

Could someone please explain this-
KR3- Diamond Reiki is a strong energy that enlightens and heals everything in its path as long as there are no underlying unresolved problems.

"as long as there are no underlying unresolved problems." What does it refers to? It also for Crystalline Reiki too.

Thank You
Love
jalperi

Kathy · « **Reply #39 on:** November 21, 2005, 10:37:45 PM »

Thanks everyone for sharing this.

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Author Topic: Kundalini stuff (Read 11528 times)

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