Which Master's Attunements are Most Powerful and Whats the reason?

[HeartFreedom]

Hi to All,

As each master has the same energy in any reiki modality but i wanna know which Master's Attunements are the strongest and most powerful for USUI Reiki, Kundalini, Full Spectrum Healing and for other Modalities..... And what are the factors which increases the powers of attunements? Some people say the majore factor is the receiving attunement properly and it also depends how much the master involve/concentrate in sending attunements?

I've taken some attunements from a Master and I felt clear and strong energy but on the other hand I felt low and weak energy from the other master even in the same reiki system......So why is That??

And i wanna know from people that which Master here on ShareReiki.org has the strongest distant attunements for different reiki and energy systems ? Plz Name thems!

(Note: The purpose of this thread is not to de-value anyone but to know the strongest attunements of some Master and to find its reasons so others can improve themself)

Regards

[milarepa]

Hi,
   to an extent, it's not the attunement process which makes anything 'powerful'. Although, folks that have changed the process about a lot, have, imo, diluted things.

what generally is more important is the teacher, and where they are at spiritually themselves.

it's worth noting, that many feel that recieving different initiaitons in different styles, actually seems to decrease their own Reiki for a time. i noticed this personally also.

take care
             Wayne

[Naropa]

Hi,

  I'll Quote "(Note: The purpose of this thread is not to devalue anyone but to know the strongest attunements of some Master and to find its reasons so others can improve themself)"  -In which case naming what will probably turnout to be the more popular Masters, is fruitless and degrading.  If you are on a true mission, I would expect that you also will be gathering information from other sources to share with us.  Please do as we all can benefit as well as our future students.

What is helpful information someone might need to improve their technique, teaching, and selves.
 
1. Is power the measure of the effectiveness of an attunement ?
2. Over what period do we evaluate the effects of an attunement ? 
3. How many students do we evaluate over what period of time ?
4. Do the students follow at least similar life and Reiki practices or not?
5. What happens to a person during the attunement process and for how long there after?
6. How do prior attunements effect the new attunement ?
7.  And more if needed  (please add and answer some)


     There is of course, the question of which (master) Teacher is right for you on your path.  Then the question of the attunement is almost moot.  It also raises the discussion in which we compare ones experience of the energy flow to the power of the attunement or of ones ability to channel Reiki.  Not to mention the value or successfulness of a Reiki treatment.  So, if the experience of the energy is stronger in either you or your clients, does that mean your a more powerful teacher or that the attunement you had was more powerful ?
    So, what healing process did you go through with each attunement ?  Was the healing process what took you to your experience ? 

    As far as I can tell,  Their is a broad source of Reiki and each system might use a diffrent level or focus.  The same way water may be filtered through rock and become pure or go through minerals and become healing lithium water or go the the sea and become non drinkable salt but still very healing water.  Each has its own feeling and effect and depending on you, how it effects you; which varies over time.

    Also, some people just have the nack for it.

So, what level of skill do you as a healer and a channel possess ?

Naropa

[Naropa]

This is an intresting concept in comparison to attunement.
Naropa

All this is quoted from http://reiju.johreiki.net/reiju.php
REIJU
IS an energetic "empowerment" procedure. The word is usually translated as "blessing" or "giving Spirit." There are significant differences between Reiju and the modern Reiki "attunement," which originated with Hawayo Takata:

-- Reiju does not involve symbols (which, during Attunement, are implanted in the recipient's aura);
-- Reiju is typically given regularly and frequently (often weekly), while Attunement is normally given only once at each level of Reiki training.
Energetic "empowerment," regardless of the procedure used, increases our awareness of certain energies (or states of being, or aspects of the Self). To me, the Usui Reiju procedure feels much more natural than the Attunement procedure. I like the simplicity of Reiju. I like that it does not use symbols. And, I feel, the greatest benefit of Reiju over Attunement is the frequent repetition of it. Weekly Reiju is a great way of cleaning our energy field and increasing our awareness and capacity of Reiki.

Among Reiki researchers, there are differing accounts of Reiju's history. Both Dave King and Chris Marsh have spent much time in Japan, and both have learned from people who were taught by Mikao Usui himself; and Dave and Chris have learned very different things!

According to Dave King's teachers, Usui gave no energetic empowerments, just a simple "rite of passage" ceremony at each level of training. The Reiju procedure, Dave believes, was developed by one of Usui's final students, Jusaburo Ushida, and was based on a procedure called Denju ("instruction" or "initiation") -- which was used by Usui's close friend and student Toshihiro Eguchi, in Eguchi's own palm-healing method. But Chris Marsh's teachers have said that Usui did teach them the Reiju procedure (and that it came from Tendai Buddhism).

We know that Reiju has been used in the Usui Reiki Ryoho Gakkai, throughout its history. So ... how did we get from Reiju to the modern Reiki Attunement, via Dr. Hayashi and Hawayo Takata?

Dave King was taught that, for a time, Dr. Hayashi used Usui's "rite of passage" ceremony (called "Transformation") ... and that eventually he replaced it with an energetic empowerment procedure, known as Jikiden ("initiation" or "direct transmission of skill"). And that Hawayo Takata (Hayashi's student) later modified the Jikiden procedure, to create what is known as the Reiki Attunement.



Denju


Reiju


Jikiden

(thanks to Dave King for these kanji images)

TO read more about Reiju -- including the experiences of many people who have received it -- and to request Reiju yourself, please see the Reiju Empowerment page.

[milarepa]

Hi Naropa,
             Just wanna pick up on a few points, :-) .

According to Dave King's teachers, Usui gave no energetic empowerments, just a simple "rite of passage" ceremony at each level of training. The Reiju procedure, Dave believes, was developed by one of Usui's final students, Jusaburo Ushida, and was based on a procedure called Denju ("instruction" or "initiation") -- which was used by Usui's close friend and student Toshihiro Eguchi, in Eguchi's own palm-healing method. But Chris Marsh's teachers have said that Usui did teach them the Reiju procedure (and that it came from Tendai Buddhism).

For some time, the claims by Dave have been questionable, and indeed the same is with Chris's claims also. Single source contacts in the Reiki 'world' that can't be verified, should always at least not be took on face value (not saying you are). I unfortunately had a bad experience with 1 similar person in England, who incidentally is in a prominent position in a respected Reiki organisation.

We know that Reiju has been used in the Usui Reiki Ryoho Gakkai, throughout its history. So ... how did we get from Reiju to the modern Reiki Attunement, via Dr. Hayashi and Hawayo Takata?

Takata sensei taught as she was taught. And, imo, Hayashi sensei taught her what Usui sensei taught him. I say this because Hayashi sensei signed her certificate, which right throughout it was said to be Usui sensei's style. If Hayashi sensei had of changed the system in any way, i feel he would not have used Usui sensei's name to indentify the system.

IMO, the denju initiation comes from Usui sensei. He really is the most obvious. Usui sensei had the greatest understanding of what was needed to be achieved i feel, and we know for sure he had the spiritual know how of what to do. Although Reiki goes beyond religion, for sure, there are overtones of Buddhsim in the initiation, though not immediately obvious.

Why the denju initiation was created may possibly be because as Reiki grew in popularity, Usui sensei travelled more, it would take up an extraordinary amount of time to keep giving Reiju to many 1000's of his students. I'm guessing it wasn't possible to keep with Reiju.

Dave King was taught that, for a time, Dr. Hayashi used Usui's "rite of passage" ceremony (called "Transformation") ... and that eventually he replaced it with an energetic empowerment procedure, known as Jikiden ("initiation" or "direct transmission of skill"). And that Hawayo Takata (Hayashi's student) later modified the Jikiden procedure, to create what is known as the Reiki Attunement.

The changes in the attunement within Usui Shiki Ryoho came from Takata sensei's students. :-) .

take care
             Wayne

[Naropa]

I hope the rest of you reading this will chime in and pick up a point or two as well-  Focusing on what we can do to sharpen our skills and understand the attunement process more clearly.  i.e.  Why might one teachers attunement be more effective,powerful, etc.

Very helpful !

Thanks,
Naropa