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Jikiden Reiki
« on: November 01, 2009, 10:13:19 AM »
I am considering to take Jikiden Reiki seminar and get Reiju for Shoden and Okuden (even though I am attuned to Usui Shiki Ryoho II ). Does any one have any experience with Jikiden Reiki to share?

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Re: Jikiden Reiki
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2009, 09:03:08 PM »
No one ?
"Each waking-up moment plants a seed for future waking-up moments." This is really true.
The more you catch-yourself lost in a thought, the more you will catch
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Re: Jikiden Reiki
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2009, 11:01:31 PM »
Hello Rose Quartz,

I have never heard of this kind of Reiki.

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Re: Jikiden Reiki
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2009, 10:51:59 PM »
Here is a preview on a book called Light on the Origins of Reiki
The autor's name is Tadao Yamaguchi who was attuned to Reiki by his mother Chiyoko who was attuned to Reiki by Hayashi Sensei in Japan back in the days.
I believe that Chiyoko Yamaguchi was discovered by Frank Aryava Peter (?)

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I simply feel that Takata's Reiki (not Takata her self) got way too high off the ground  :) with so many different "what ever works for you" approaches and systems which makes me feel to go the simple old Japanese Reiki way. If there is a "My Reiki Way" I know I am to find it where it all started.

If one is to learn to play music, one is to pass the basics first even though one would like to play Jazz at once  ;D

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I have never heard of this kind of Reiki.

Well in that case I am to save some money for that 3 days seminar and get Reiju from Tadao him self in August next year. Tadao is coming from Japan to Sweden for that occasion.

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Re: Jikiden Reiki
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2009, 04:41:42 AM »
Hi RQ! I heard of the style, and of Peters, who was I believe the first guy to actually go to Japan with a personal translator to get things done (if I'm not mistaken?)


About the "whatever works for you" approach... it's very modern, and very "in the now"...  people at a high level realise that "basics" and "forms", and also "rituals" are guidelines for the beginners, until they assimilate and integrate what's really important. Of course basics and fondations are important, but some people react very badly to discipline, and as a result, go on sucking for the rest of their life.
I'm a straight type, I don't like free style, but life made me bump into many people who were doing things the exact opposite as I was doing them, and SOMEHOW, ended up with better, smoother, painless results.

What's difficult to process, is the acceptance that other ways are possible for other people, and that there is no quantifiable quality to any single way of doing something. Everybody will react differently to every single way, and will at some point go free style. EXCEPT for japanese people of old, before the war, who would go on replicating their sensei's reiki the way they were thought. This is very japanese, very stiff, and not at all applicable in japan nowadays, eventhough a good lot of westerners love that aspect.
My dad does anyway, but in his case I believe he's trying to replace an inexistent father figure with a "master" in martial arts and whatnot.


Also, keep in mind that although most of us are born with only the lower chakra active, and the rest of them activate as we grow up, since the hippie revolution more and more people are born with the opposite make up, higher chakras open, lower chakras jammed. This makes them very spiritual from the beginning, very ESP, but also leaves them with a total abhorrence of any "fixed" system with rules and such. I know many of those, and when you listen to their childhood stories, you couldn't believe how many problems they had, and how much trouble they spawned back then, when you look at them now, all angelic faces, smooth warm energy and buddha-like smile on their face.

These people fought all the way to gain the freedom of "going free style" and use whatever was best for them, while the traditional schools  and institutions frowned at them all their life.

Although I don't like some of the BS reiki you can see on Ebay, with endless variations of colors and animals, I do believe that it is important to follow your heart and whims when it comes to "evolution" or "ascension" or whatever. Same goes with healing. If you feel like eating cake in the middle of your diet, you should. Why? Because making you happy for 5min today is more healing than gaining a day in the long war that a diet often proves to be.  Intent is the key where energy is concerned, and intent comes from either positive or negative states of mind. We spend enough negative time everyday worrying about crap, and making them real by focusing on them. It's high time people spend time and intent on positive thing, even if they don't fit in the currently accepted thought system.

and one last thing... following a traditional school of whatever gives you zero freedome to express and discover your own uniqueness. And the whole world is about uniqueness.  But the more stiff a system is, the more afraid it is of seeing the kids leaving with their precious knowledge and go freestyle. It's born out of the fear of losing a status of importance, and fear of losing one's own uniqueness.
I like chinese styles better... you find a teacher, you train randomly around his group until he finally gives you the honor of looking at you, you show you motivation by practicing all the time, and when he sees fit to correct or teach you, he will. And if you want to leave and never come back, it won't spoil his night of sleep. Japanese ways are often very very biased and more restrictive than the army, which makes me smile cause every "hardcore" japanese teacher I know made a 90 degrees turn toward non-japanese soft/smooth style somewhere after 50. When they start feeling they lack something, they look outside of their box and realise they'd been doing it the wrong way.

The wonderful thing about reiki, is that even if you go freestyle, and might look like you're wasting your time, you can't really hurt yourself or anyone else. Everybody has a different path, and some of us have a chaotic one, like my best friend, who I feel like choking a few times a year... he needs to slam against EVERY wall before taking the softer road, and whatever I tell him won't change a thing. Just being around him is a serious training for me lol. I've never seen him accept somebody else's idea, never see him study or read a book... he will take 19years to achieve what others can do in 6 months, but SOMEHOW, he always falls back on his feet....         
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Re: Jikiden Reiki
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2009, 05:07:41 AM »
Hi RQ,

I think Jikiden Reiki will suit you. I believe you have the dedication to follow through, cos as a practitioner of Qi Gong, it takes a lot of discipline, and in Jikiden to move from Shoden and Okuden to Shihan, it takes time as in Qi Gong, it takes time  to progress. I used to practice Qi Gong and Tai Chi, but due to busy scheduling i stopped (...hmmm...maybe it's time to start again) ;D

In today's society...we have become a drive thru people. WE want everything NOW!!!! With Jikiden, the Shihan is apparently offered to students assessed to be of a suitable level of development. Which i think is great way to maintain the 'original' Reiki  :)

I was reading the other day in a post, stating that many Reiki Practitioners drop out many times, coz they get bored. I think it is because they get attuned without going into any training. With Jikiden, you are trained to move on to the Shihan.

Wish you all the best in your Jikiden journey!!  :)

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Re: Jikiden Reiki
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2009, 05:45:24 AM »
if the concept of "shihan" is the same as in martial arts, then it means your teacher gave you the right not only to teach, but also to open your own school. In martial arts or Tea Ceremony, that would translate into 25-45 years of continued training under the same teacher, and only a couple students are expected/desired to become shihan. The japanese system uses veteran practitioners as assistant without giving them the right to gain their independance.  Probably 4-5 persons out of 1000  enthusiasts will even consider going all the way to shihan. Be careful not to get lost in the nomenclatura of japanese terms. For example, "okuden" used to be the secret hidden level of informations and techniques given to only a handful of loyal people after years of training. The Okuden were mostly counter-techniques that protected a practinioners against people of higher skills. In reiki, we don't really have that kind of info, or the need to keep it secret and restricted. Don't forget Usui-sensei believed reiki was a universal right of mankind, and as such shouldn't be limited to levels of practice or seniority. The rules are simple, then it's all about how often you practice on yourself everyday. Many schools formatising of the teachings of reiki
end up creating some form of elitism in the lower AND higher ranks. The middle ranks are okay, because they know they are still learning, but beginners and masters sometimes are very aloof and full of themselves. I believe that can't happen in a "loose" style, with no fancy ranks and ceremonies.

Also keep in mind that "loose" styles didn't pop out of nowhere for no reason... there was a big need for freedom of thought and freedom of movement, and so skilled people decided to go their own way.
If you are familiar with Japanese Arts, martial or not, it's a pattern typical to Japanese culture and history.
Why do you think we have so many karate schools in Europe and the US? Because so many teachers (shihan or not)   where unsatisfied with the state of things in Japan, and decided to expatriate themselve. Or because they didn't have a choice back home.

Everybody should go the way that feels best, but it's important to keep openminded. I've seen too  many people gasp when told they don't really need symbols to heal... that symbols are just a way to focus mind and energy on the task at hand, and are not something sacred that can't be left on the side when needed.   Did you know some people were still calling on their attuner's name every time they use reiki, as if they themselve couldn't channel without their teacher's help?!  omg
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Re: Jikiden Reiki
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2009, 06:29:31 AM »
Did you know some people were still calling on their attuner's name every time they use reiki, as if they themselve couldn't channel without their teacher's help?!  omg

Guess it is important to teach those we attune!!! :) There are so many modalities out there, they may get confused and put in everything hoping for the best!!

Guess Jikiden, may be a starting point for us to learn. !! :)